tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post6685873432346097821..comments2024-03-09T03:19:57.797-05:00Comments on The Delaware Libertarian: Will "illegal" guns become the new form of "civil disobedience"?Steven H. Newtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09097470960863103473noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-78386167243457400872013-04-02T11:10:54.043-04:002013-04-02T11:10:54.043-04:00Here's another example of registration leading...Here's another example of registration leading to confiscation in Canada. <br /><br />http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/battle-over-chinese-made-rifle-pits-gun-enthusiasts-against-rcmp/article1845189/Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-5132722264502500542013-04-02T10:56:49.283-04:002013-04-02T10:56:49.283-04:00Because I don't think DW's claim should go...Because I don't think DW's claim should go unrefuted.<br /><br />Here's a CA statute which confiscated 50 BMG rifles in the state.<br /><br />http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/4/2/2.3/2/s12280<br /><br />And here's the bit about SKS rifles<br /><br /><i>"Any person, firm, company, or corporation that is in possession of an SKS rifle shall do one of the following on or before January 1, 2000:<br /><br />(A)Relinquish the SKS rifle to the Department of Justice pursuant to subdivision (h).<br /><br />(B)Relinquish the SKS rifle to a law enforcement agency pursuant to Section 12288.<br /><br />(C)Dispose of the SKS rifle as permitted by Section 12285."</i>Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-82236625337431529622013-03-23T02:08:00.315-04:002013-03-23T02:08:00.315-04:00"Yeah, I hear about these so-called mass conf..."Yeah, I hear about these so-called mass confiscations. But the claims always come with either no links or from sources that lack credibility because they rest on bald assertions, deliberate distortions, or no corroborating evidence. You know, paranoid bullshit."<br /><br />Delaware Watch, on the other hand, would never resort to bald assertions or deliberate distortions, so he must just be too lazy or clueless to realize that we now have this thing called Google where you can type in keywords such as "california gun confiscation" and get back links to pages like http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_registration.htmltomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06653459162258850269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-86734021347744129342013-03-22T18:14:12.423-04:002013-03-22T18:14:12.423-04:00Yeah, I hear about these so-called mass confiscati...Yeah, I hear about these so-called mass confiscations. But the claims always come with either no links or from sources that lack credibility because they rest on bald assertions, deliberate distortions, or no corroborating evidence. You know, paranoid bullshit. Delaware Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13619357338844485803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-13071458612983762962013-03-22T13:11:48.788-04:002013-03-22T13:11:48.788-04:00Also, I think Delaware Watch seriously underestima...Also, I think Delaware Watch seriously underestimates the number of people who simply will NOT comply with registration because they've seen far, far too many instances where registration lead to confiscation.<br /><br />Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-57077814697811261192013-03-22T13:08:43.720-04:002013-03-22T13:08:43.720-04:00And this was hardly the first time we've seen ...And this was hardly the first time we've seen confiscations in CA after they required "registration."<br /><br />It happened in the 1980's. 1986 I believe after the state retroactively decided that decades old SKS rifles were now "assault weapons" and they now became illegal contraband.<br /><br />HB35 sets up a registry of all purchases. No good can come of this.Mike W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03425962910696301026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-61663930113064984412013-03-21T20:08:42.092-04:002013-03-21T20:08:42.092-04:00Duffy
Are we seeing this already? We are in regar...Duffy<br />Are we seeing this already? We are in regards to the trivial - speed limits, and the death rates on the road continue their downward march. We see it with drugs. Perhaps when middle class joe decides to ignore the law things will be just fine - except we will have created more criminals.NCSDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-84099607767476552152013-03-21T15:42:38.465-04:002013-03-21T15:42:38.465-04:00I have an uneasy feeling that we're heading to...I have an uneasy feeling that we're heading toward a precipice. The constant meddling in our lives in matters great and small (banning soda) may lead some people to just start ignoring all kinds of laws. You will always have scofflaws but if/when Mr. Middle Class America decides he's had enough and is going to ignore whichever laws he sees fit things could go sideways very quickly. I really, really don't want to see that.The Last Ephorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10546829944086243794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-89641078674282836322013-03-21T09:01:03.953-04:002013-03-21T09:01:03.953-04:00Usually when we talk about "civil disobedienc...Usually when we talk about "civil disobedience," we're talking about an open and public violation of a law that the person believes is bad, for the purpose of publicizing the badness of the law and rallying public support against it.<br /><br />I don't think this really qualifies as "civil disobedience."<br /><br />I'm not looking to "make a point" by refusing to ask Uncle Sugar's permission to buy a gun, refusing to register or otherwise disclose my ownership of a gun, and refusing to allow the government to steal my gun.<br /><br />It's a lot less complicated than that: My guns are my guns, and moral reprobates like Delaware Watch and his pet politicians can't have them. They don't have to like it. It's that way whether they like it or not.Thomas L. Knapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16271473384378782680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-26900299038804001542013-03-21T05:12:22.852-04:002013-03-21T05:12:22.852-04:00"If, as I suspect, a significant percentage o..."If, as I suspect, a significant percentage of gun owners will refuse to comply...." I suspect that the percentage will be much lower than you think precisely because most gun owners are responsible and think that the bodies of bullet ridden children are not emblematic of liberty. They will want the controls that will prevent such tragedies. As for those who won't comply ostensibly for "philosophical" reasons, the epithet "gun nut" applies perfectly to such a socially irresponsible lot. Delaware Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13619357338844485803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-32218717761451665552013-03-20T20:23:14.464-04:002013-03-20T20:23:14.464-04:00Steve,
Warrant-less wiretaps confiscated our righ...Steve,<br /><br />Warrant-less wiretaps confiscated our right to privacy.<br /><br />Federal Asset forfeiture allows the state to confiscate just about any property it damn well pleases.<br /><br />Likewise, Executive Order 13224 allows the Potus to "block" your assets.<br /><br />The development of aerial robots, Somehow granted potus the power to confiscate your life. <br /><br />With the NDAA, s/he can confiscate your ass, indefinitely, and w/o Due Process of law.<br /><br />And consider how many of us have had our homes and livelihoods confiscated by the Real Authorities. <br /><br />The state has the power to confiscate your right to vote.<br /><br />Consider that all of the above powers of confiscation can be targeted at people who have either been convicted of no crime or have otherwise paid for their crime.<br /><br />So much has been confiscated from law-abiding Americans already that the power to confiscate firearms is superfluous.<br /><br />-delacratdelacratnoreply@blogger.com