tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post7592688219394534395..comments2024-03-19T08:42:45.690-04:00Comments on The Delaware Libertarian: Bob Barr eulogizes Jesse Helms as "courageous and deeply principled"Steven H. Newtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09097470960863103473noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-23241904427731341332008-07-10T14:51:00.000-04:002008-07-10T14:51:00.000-04:00I love how conservatives have so destroyed basic h...I love how conservatives have so destroyed basic human decency that any effort by people to be decent human beings is now decried by the right wing as "political correctness."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-77683856031583750972008-07-07T22:59:00.000-04:002008-07-07T22:59:00.000-04:00I would have deleted "finest" but do you have a pr...I would have deleted "finest" but do you have a problem with "courageous" or "principled" except that they aren't your principles? They are not mine either; in my first post I said he was at best an Enemy of my Enemy.<BR/><BR/>A quarter century ago there were elections in El Salvador stage managed by the Reagan administration the way Vince McMahon stages "wrestling" shows. Jesse Helms called them on it. In later years he would sometimes join Paul Wellstone on an ad hoc human rights issue. Even then he was right for wrong reasons and I was really fearful about the prospect of him chairing the Foreign Relations Committee.<BR/>But,<BR/>in the days following his death,<BR/>Yes you are being Politically Correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-82731481258890274942008-07-07T21:41:00.000-04:002008-07-07T21:41:00.000-04:00It looks as though the most vocal "radicals" have ...<I>It looks as though the most vocal "radicals" have gone to rigid Political Correctness.</I><BR/><BR/>That's crap. Barr didn't merely say a few kind words: he eulogized Helms: "one of the finest, most courageous and deeply principled men to ever serve in the United States Congress."<BR/><BR/>You explain how Helms' career merits any of those.<BR/><BR/>"finest"?<BR/><BR/>"most courageous"?<BR/><BR/>"deeply principled"?<BR/><BR/>Give me a break.Steven H. Newtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09097470960863103473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-82486252525229853182008-07-07T21:10:00.000-04:002008-07-07T21:10:00.000-04:00Jesse Helms was at best an Enemy of my Enemy, and ...Jesse Helms was at best an Enemy of my Enemy, and I miss him only because he gave headaches to both "D" and "R" administrations. That said . . .<BR/><BR/>It looks as though the most vocal "radicals" have gone to rigid Political Correctness. We can't have condolences expressed on the death of a controversial political figure without launching a Two Minute Hate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-9659845460448232008-07-07T19:06:00.000-04:002008-07-07T19:06:00.000-04:00"He also opposed the needed voting rights act. He ..."He also opposed the needed voting rights act. He opposed Dr. King Day which was a curious use of political capital. He originally opposed the '64 Civil Rights Act, but never sought to undermine or undue it." <BR/><BR/>In case anyone read it hurriedly and is in a rush to condemn everyone who has the anything good to say about Helms, I thought those were wrong positions. I disagree vigorously.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14763905164821434222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-37354764978005383512008-07-07T19:02:00.000-04:002008-07-07T19:02:00.000-04:00Jesse Helms did a great service for America by sta...Jesse Helms did a great service for America by standing almost alone against globalism. He kept us out of a number of crazy conventions which undermined the liberty of other nations. It is fitting that he died on July 4.<BR/><BR/>You guys can overlook Jefferson, Washington, and Madison being slave owners. Why not accept a balance and complicated view of Helms? <BR/><BR/>The man was one of the first Southern Senators to hire blacks. He was a leader in bringing the AIDS in Africa issue to mainstream America. He believed it was his Christian duty to save the children. He opposed quotas which stoked racial tension.<BR/><BR/>He also opposed the needed voting rights act. He opposed Dr. King Day which was a curious use of political capital. He originally opposed the '64 Civil Rights Act, but never sought to undermine or undue it. <BR/><BR/>The man was complicated. I don't think it paints someone just because they choose to look at his many accomplishments during the period of mourning.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14763905164821434222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-9572943580784951392008-07-07T18:47:00.000-04:002008-07-07T18:47:00.000-04:00Eric, be precise (and accurate) and revise that to...Eric, be precise (and accurate) and revise that to "Southern Straight White Man."<BR/><BR/>PS -- as a Pennsylvanian, I find the notion of "Delaware as Confederate state" to be at least as amusing as some of your prior greatest hits, such as "Rudy Giuliani as a libertarian."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-49341158788109848612008-07-07T15:00:00.000-04:002008-07-07T15:00:00.000-04:00I hope Neil Young will remember...Southern man don...I hope Neil Young will remember...<BR/><BR/>Southern man don't need him around anyhow...Eric Donderohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02763399145451696076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-74764768844147123052008-07-07T10:52:00.000-04:002008-07-07T10:52:00.000-04:00It is to bad that Eric can't tell the difference b...It is to bad that Eric can't tell the difference between a Southern Man, and a Southern RACIST BIGOT...<BR/><BR/>Arthur Torrey<BR/>LPMA Presidential Elector, who WON'T vote for Barr!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7893272060787897238.post-54312469638921098542008-07-07T07:49:00.000-04:002008-07-07T07:49:00.000-04:00Is there something wrong with having a Southernor ...Is there something wrong with having a Southernor heading the Libertarian ticket? Come to think of it, Barr is the first genuine Southernor as LP Presidential candidate.<BR/><BR/>And you, as a Delawarean should be a little proud to have him running. After all, Delaware was a quasi-Southern State during the Civil War. (Anyone who has ever visited Milford, Lewes, or Camden/Wyoming knows that DE is actually more of a Southern State with a northern tip in New Castle County)<BR/><BR/>Why are you - A Proud Delawarean - now Dissing Barr for his Southerness?Eric Donderohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02763399145451696076noreply@blogger.com