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The No-fly, No-buy list: first guns and now cars

Remember what Rahm Emmanuel said about being one of the 1,000,000 Americans on the No-fly list:

“if you’re on that no-fly list, your access to the right to bear arms is cancelled, because you’re not part of the American family; you don’t deserve that right. There is no right for you if you’re on that terrorist list.”


Now, it seems that your right to purchase a car has also been cancelled--from Alphecca [a car salesman in real life]:

A guy of middle-eastern decent (born in Afghanistan) wants to buy a car. We agree on the price, he fills out a credit-ap and we run it. Rock Star, as we say in the biz, 815 FICO score with 92% of his current credit available. Well employed at a famous medical school. Should be “No Problem” getting him financed, right?

Wrong. His name brings up a flag on AMPAC, the American Patriot Act terrorist watch list. Well, his name is similar to other names on the list, so, banks are not allowed to loan money to him. It means he can’t get the car and I can’t get the sale.


But, of course, we don't live in a police state....

And if you think otherwise we can have a warrant draw up for your arrest.

Comments

Anonymous said…
Thanks for posting this. It brings home the fact that the horrific Patriot Act is still in place. They have had 8 yrs to perfect their system and many innocents are caught up in it.

While traveling in Turkey, I was stunned to read this caption above the courts doors.

"In here there is no God"!
Mike W. said…
The worst part is that if you end up on the list the gov. won't tell you, won't explain why, and there's no set means of getting yourself removed (not that I know of anyway)
Mike W. said…
The worst part is that if you end up on the list the gov. won't tell you, won't explain why, and there's no set means of getting yourself removed (not that I know of anyway)
Ricketson said…
I think that this list (Specially Designated Nationals) is different from the 'no fly list'.
Anonymous said…
so if you are on Rahm's list (or have a similar name to somone who is)...

you can't fly
you can't buy a gun (or ammunition?)
you can't borrow money

what's next? banned from the internet? no more driver's liscense?

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